Grasi
16. February, 2008, 12:33
QUOTE (jurgen @ Feb 16 2008, 11:45)

Sýnist þér kristni fá eitthverja sérstaka meðhöndlun og virðingu á vesturlöndum eða í arabalöndunum ?
Það hefur í það minnsta farið fram hjá mér. Það sem þessi múslimaskríll er að gera á ekkert skylt með kvörtunum, þetta eru hrein og klár skemmdarverk. Flotta kvartanir, kveikja elda og veitast svo að þeim sem koma til að slökkva eldana
Eina hræsnin sem ég greini í öllu þessu máli er frá liðinu sem er að afsaka þessi skemmdarverk á forsendum þess að þessi skríll hafi verið móðgaður með teiknimyndum,(ekki þarf mikið til) það megi alls ekki móðga trú þeirra. Þetta kemur oft frá sama liðinu og drullar yfir kristni í annari hvorri setningu og finnst það svo réttlæta skemmdarverk og uppþot að trú manna hafi verið svívirt.
Þetta er HRÆSNI í sinni skýrustu mynd !!!
Þeir voru að tala um þetta í sjónvarpinu hér í gærkvöldi, en ég finn ekki greinina, sneri m.a. um Se&hør og að það hefði verið fjarlægt frá kíoskum vegna þess að innihaldið "krænkede" einhverja.
Ekki sérðu mig afsaka eitt eða neitt í þessu sambandi.
Mér finnst fáránlegt að þurfa að passa sig á því á móðga ekki ofsatrúarliðið, sama hvaða trú það hefur.
Hins vegar finnst mér það vera algjört skilyrði að vera samkvæmir sjálfum sér í þessum málum og ekki halla á neinn sérstaklega, skiptir þar engu hvort sem um útskítun af Jesú eða múhammeð er að ræða.
Ég læt líka fylgja nokkrar greinar um ofbeldi kristinna manna við mótmæli sín gegn því sem gengur gegn því sem þeir telja vera kristin gildi.
http://gamle.indymedia.no/newswire/display/19775/index.phpQUOTE
Supplerende dokumentation af Jyllandspostens hykleri:
Aktionskunstneren Jens Jørgen Thorsen fik i 1984 lov til at afbilde Jesus med erigeret penis på et vægmaleri i Birkerød. Jyllands-Postens daværende chefredaktør, Asger Nørgaard Larsen, forlangte det omgående fjernet. Jesus-maleriet blev derpå overmalet på CD trafikministeren Arne Melchiors ordre, og i en kommentar hertil i Jyllands-Postens leder, skrev Asger Nørgaard Larsen, at trafikministeren »har vist både fornuft og mod til at forlange smøreriet fjernet, selv om han kan forvente nye råb om grundlov og censur«
I dag er Asger Nørgaard Larsen formand for Jyllandspostens fondsbestyrelse og har den modsatte opfattelse i sagen om Muhammed-tegningerne.
(Kilde: Det danske dagblad Politiken, 23.10.2005).
http://radaronline.com/features/2007/04/pi...oco_jesus_1.phpQUOTE
There was once a time when artists would venerate sacred religious icons in order to make a name for themselves—just look at Michelangelo or Raphael. These days, however, defamation seems the surer path to art stardom. Take the recent Choco Christ controversy. Artist Cosimo Cavallaro created a 6-foot-tall, 200-pound, anatomically correct chocolate sculpture of Jesus, to show at a Manhattan gallery during the holy week of Easter. After Cardinal Egan described it as "a sickening display" and death threats were made against Cavallaro, the gallery cancelled the exhibit. But at least Cavallaro's name has now made it to print. Of course, it's not the first time.
Inspired by the "Choco Christ" debacle, Radar has put together a visual history of recent artistic blasphemy. As all of these artists have learned, there's no quicker way to piss off the local diocese than to get creative with the Almighty, and no better way to move your name from the arts page to the front page.
http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/06/chr...-terrorism.htmlQUOTE
On July 29, 1994, a religious fundamentalist named Paul Hill attacked a Pensacola, Florida family planning center, murdering abortion provider Dr. John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett with a single blast from a pump-action shotgun. With numerous eyewitnesses, Hill surrendered peacefully and confessed to his crime at the scene. Hill was charged with two counts of first-degree murder, convicted by a jury, and given the death sentence. On September 3, 2003, he was executed by lethal injection. He never once expressed any regret for his crimes, and urged others to do the same in his last statement before his death.
But Hill's legacy lives on in the radical fringes of the anti-abortion movement, where he is seen as a hero and a martyr. Appallingly, three Christian groups in Milwaukee are planning to stage "Paul Hill Days" (via), a celebration of this bloodthirsty fanatic's killing spree that will include a re-enactment of the murders. The website, which other than its sincere praise of a convicted murderer is indistinguishable from standard evangelical right-wing rhetoric, speaks of its creators' "admiration for Paul Hill and his act of love and mercy", and wants to "recognize [him] as a hero".
This is not the first time such a thing has happened. On September 11, 2006, a Christian fundamentalist named David McMenemy crashed his gasoline-soaked car into a women's health clinic in Davenport, Iowa which he thought provided abortions (it did not), intending to blow the clinic up and die in the fire. McMenemy's attempted suicide bombing failed to destroy the clinic and he was convicted of arson, but it was striking how little media attention the story received. Had the perpetrator been a Muslim, there can be no doubt this story would have been in the headlines for weeks. Instead, it vanished with scarcely a ripple.
People like Paul Hill, McMenemy and other convicted fundamentalists (Clayton Waagner, Eric Rudolph, and others) are, in every sense of the word, religious terrorists. Exactly like Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, they use random violence against civilians to terrify and demoralize their enemies, hoping to impose their will on the populace and prevail in a battle they cannot win by open shows of force. Our society's acceptance of the reckless, extremist anti-woman rhetoric of religious anti-abortion crusaders has created an atmosphere in which these fanatics can breathe, and until we cease to pay heed to these people and firmly avow our support for the right of all women to control their own bodies, we can expect Christian terrorism to continue.
http://radaronline.com/features/2007/04/pi...oco_jesus_6.phpQUOTE
Andres Serrano, Piss Christ
A crucifix, a jar of urine, and a camera: It doesn't take a parochial school education to see this as a recipe for disaster. In 1989, Serrano's photograph of a cross submerged in a vat of his own piss was part of a traveling group show. When the Rev. Donald Wildmon, of the conservative American Family Association, got wind of it he went on a full-scale, direct mailing campaign to deluge Congress and sponsors of the exhibit with letters of protest. Apparently it worked, as New York Senator Alphonse D'Amato channeled his inner Sinéad O'Connor on the Senate floor by tearing up a copy of the photo, calling it "shocking" and "abhorrent" and chastising the National Endowment for the Arts for its support of the piece.
Ég gef skít pakkið sem er að brenna í køben og er með læti vegna muhammeð teikninganna og alla aðra sem ráðast á einhvern/einhverja aðra vegna ofsatrúar sinna og vandlætingar sem ruglinu fylgja, en skv. lögreglunni í köben, þá byrjuðu þessi læti hjá múslimunum ÁÐUR en myndirnar voru endurbirtar og reyndar mestu lætin byrðuðu vegna lokunar ungdomshuset og var framkvæmt að lang mestu af infæddum dönum, múslimar voru í MIKLUM MINNIHLUTA, þannig að við skulum hafa þetta rétt.
Það er HRÆSNI að bölva einhverjum fyrir eitthvað en styðja annan í því að gera hið sama.
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